Session 007: Genesis 3: The Fall – An Eastern and Western Perspective

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Genesis Chapter 3 is often referred to as the story of ‘The Fall’. Sadly, while there is much to be gained from this passage, there has also been many interpretations that have been self-serving and damaging to others. In this session we will dive deeply into both the Western and Eastern views of this scripture. While we don’ thave time to cover all aspects, the included links will provide plenty of fuel for some deep discussions.

  • Session 007 Prolog Podcast

    Podcast webpage
    Podcast Download


  • Scripture Audio:

    Presented as dramatizations from The Bible Gateway.

    Genesis 3


  • Knowing When to Say Enough

    We’ve listened to it before, so if you have already listened to it once, you are ahead of the class. Or listen to it again, but focus on the material from Chapter 3.

    BEMA Discipleship Podcast website:
    BEMA Session 3 download:


  • Playing God

    Rabbi Jari Lorge delivers a presentation that is called “Playing God”. It is a wildly different look at the Creation story than we are used to and comes from a purely Jewish perspective. As a Western Christian, when you hear the initial premise, you will probably be turned off and/or caught off guard. Stick with it; not because you will necessarily agree in the end, but the insights that were presented definitely have facets that can be translated effectively in our understanding of God’s relationship with us, his creation.

    YouTube Link:


  • Why did God Pant the Tree

    Ravi Zacharias, and another panel participant answer a question: “Why did God plant the tree?”. Short, but a little heavy and sweet at the some time.

    YouTube Video:


  • Versebyverseseministry.org – Shame

    This podcast looks at the state of Adam and Eve and focuses heavily on the aspect of shame. It is an angle that you may not have seriously contemplated before.

    Podcast Website:
    Podcast Audio Download:


  • Their Story

    John Walton, an OT scholar looks at The Fall. The presentation is “Telling ‘their story’”. It is a look at Adam and Eve as Archetypes. This is a strong proposition because it has a view of Adam and Eve that works whether you look at them as true individuals, as a representative couple, a philisophical group, or simple as an object lesson. Fair warning. At times if is somewhat academic and deep. There are some wonderful nuggets to chew on from this one.

    YouTube Video

Here are some things to think about when studying these resources.

  • What do you think are the major differences between Eastern and Western thought?
  • How does Eastern Thought look at sin in comparison to Western thought?
  • Do you think God set up Adam and Eve to fall?
  • What could either Adam or Eve have done to redeem themselves?
  • What is the significance of shame and covering themselves in this story?

Session 006: Genesis 1 & 2: Other Creation Stories and what sets Genesis apart?

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There is a rather significant protion of Western culture that now believes that the Genesis story of creation is just a myth like any other creation story from other ancient cultures. In fact, may think that the Genesis story was taken in large part from the Balylonian and Egyptian creation stories. This week are are going to look at the general classifications of creation myths and then dive rather deep into a discussion of what makes the Genesis story unique.

  • Session 006 Prolog Podcast

    Podcast webpage
    Podcast Download


  • Scripture Audio:

    Presented as dramatizations from The Bible Gateway.

    Genesis 1
    Genesis 2


  • The Creation Myth

    We’ll start this weeks resources with an article from Britannica. Iin this article we’ll see one of the current aspects for grouping the worlds creation myths together. This should provide a solid foundation in how most secularists view creationist stories in general.

    Encyclopedia Britannica website:


  • Is Genesis Just One of the Many Creation Myths?

    Our fist podcast is a very short episode of “The Point” by Breakpoint. It breaches the question, “Is Genesis Just One of the Many Creation Myths?”

    Breakpoint Podcast


  • The Genesis Creation story compared to those from Egypt and Babylon.

    We’ll listed to two Sunday School classes taught by William Lane Craig. These two Youtube vdeos get rather deep and collegeate, but they are very good at dubunking the idea that the Genesis creation story came from ither Egypt or Babylon.

    Examining the Supposed Parallels Between Genesis and Egyptian Myths.
    Did Genesis Borrow from Babylonian Myths?

Here are some things to think about when studying these resources.

  • Do you think that the Bible took stories for other cultures? Or did other cultures take from the Bible?
  • Why do you think there are so many similarities in creation stories that are totally disconnected from each other?
  • Does this issue even matter to you? Why yes or no?